Comments for Never mind the technology, where's the learning? http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org In 1992, I was involved in an exciting ICT and learning conference with this title. I'm assuming that Steve Heppell, who was one of the main organisers for the conference, came up with this phrase to express the theme of the conference. Although a great deal has happened in education since, we've still got a long way to go to make this question irrelevant. Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:43:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 Comment on Few learners engage in sophisticated Web 2.0 activities by Few learners engage in sophisticated Web 2.0 activities | On The Net | Free Information Resource | Information Resource on Various Topics http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/08/15/few-learners-engage-in-sophisticated-web-20-activities/#comment-1073 Few learners engage in sophisticated Web 2.0 activities | On The Net | Free Information Resource | Information Resource on Various Topics Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:10:54 +0000 http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/08/15/few-learners-engage-in-sophisticated-web-20-activities/#comment-1073 [...] Click here for the source [...] [...] Click here for the source [...]

]]> Comment on 3D Worlds go browser based by Bookmarks about Browser http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/07/08/3d-worlds-go-browser-based/#comment-1071 Bookmarks about Browser Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:45:35 +0000 http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/07/08/3d-worlds-go-browser-based/#comment-1071 [...] - bookmarked by 3 members originally found by ForeverCardcaptorFan on July 17, 2008 3D Worlds go browser based http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/07/08/3d-worlds-go-browser-based/ - bookmarked by 4 [...] [...] - bookmarked by 3 members originally found by ForeverCardcaptorFan on July 17, 2008 3D Worlds go browser based http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/07/08/3d-worlds-go-browser-based/ - bookmarked by 4 [...]

]]> Comment on Self forming groups, Shirky and Associations by Ben Martin, CAE http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/07/26/self-forming-groups-shirky-and-associations/#comment-1065 Ben Martin, CAE Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:29:50 +0000 http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/07/26/self-forming-groups-shirky-and-associations/#comment-1065 Thanks for agreeing with me. I seem to have stirred up a bit of a hornet's nest with that post. Thanks for agreeing with me. I seem to have stirred up a bit of a hornet’s nest with that post.

]]> Comment on Ghost of learning past comes to haunt us by Never mind the technology, where’s the learning? » Blog Archive » Self forming groups, Shirky and Associations http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/03/14/ghost-of-learning-past-comes-to-haunt-us/#comment-1064 Never mind the technology, where’s the learning? » Blog Archive » Self forming groups, Shirky and Associations Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:10:15 +0000 http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/03/14/ghost-of-learning-past-comes-to-haunt-us/#comment-1064 [...] all goes back to the comments the Ewan made about Naace back in March and at the time, I was still forming a view on what he was [...] [...] all goes back to the comments the Ewan made about Naace back in March and at the time, I was still forming a view on what he was [...]

]]> Comment on A VLE for all, or teachers can always do it their way by Richard Hyett http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/06/19/a-vle-for-all-or-teachers-can-always-do-it-their-way/#comment-1059 Richard Hyett Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:06:00 +0000 http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/06/19/a-vle-for-all-or-teachers-can-always-do-it-their-way/#comment-1059 Students may also do it their own way. Never mind which VLE their teachers/school/local authorities prefer. Generation I, those born after 1992, are likely to have spent a considerable amount of time and energy developing their enthusiasms on systems completely outside the schools/colleges reach. Flickr,facebook,friendfeed,twitter make your own list, young people may even be subscribing to courses without consulting anyone. If you are going to ask a Teacher to invest a lot of time building anything in some VLE, one of the first questions they should ask is how do I get my information out, so I don't have to repeat this whole process. Generation I will ask the same question. How many VLEs, E Portfolios, Individual Learning Plans have any kind of portability whatsoever? Who cares if Moodle is todays or tomorrows winner? Students may also do it their own way. Never mind which VLE their teachers/school/local authorities prefer. Generation I, those born after 1992, are likely to have spent a considerable amount of time and energy developing their enthusiasms on systems completely outside the schools/colleges reach. Flickr,facebook,friendfeed,twitter make your own list, young people may even be subscribing to courses without consulting anyone. If you are going to ask a Teacher to invest a lot of time building anything in some VLE, one of the first questions they should ask is how do I get my information out, so I don’t have to repeat this whole process. Generation I will ask the same question. How many VLEs, E Portfolios, Individual Learning Plans have any kind of portability whatsoever? Who cares if Moodle is todays or tomorrows winner?

]]> Comment on Imposing VLEs on teachers won’t work! by Never mind the technology, where’s the learning? » Blog Archive » A VLE for all, or teachers can always do it their way http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2006/12/13/imposing-vles-on-teachers-wont-work/#comment-1056 Never mind the technology, where’s the learning? » Blog Archive » A VLE for all, or teachers can always do it their way Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:37:53 +0000 http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2006/12/13/imposing-vles-on-teachers-wont-work/#comment-1056 [...] not so recent past. When it comes to Learning Platforms and VLEs, I’ve mentioned before that imposition won’t necessarily work, and now an educator can set up their own VLE for free. In true ‘flat-world’, Web 2.0 [...] [...] not so recent past. When it comes to Learning Platforms and VLEs, I’ve mentioned before that imposition won’t necessarily work, and now an educator can set up their own VLE for free. In true ‘flat-world’, Web 2.0 [...]

]]> Comment on Blogvangelism: “this isn’t about blogging, it’s about learning” by Never mind the technology, where’s the learning? » Blog Archive » Would you buy content for your VLE? http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2006/02/25/blogvangelism-this-isnt-about-blogging-its-about-learning/#comment-1050 Never mind the technology, where’s the learning? » Blog Archive » Would you buy content for your VLE? Tue, 06 May 2008 19:02:53 +0000 http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2006/02/25/blogvangelism-this-isnt-about-blogging-its-about-learning/#comment-1050 [...] often said that there are three types of teacher: creators, adapters and users. Creators develop new ideas for [...] [...] often said that there are three types of teacher: creators, adapters and users. Creators develop new ideas for [...]

]]> Comment on Changing gear and Virtual Learning Environments by Mark Berthelemy http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/05/06/changing-gear-and-virtual-learning-environments/#comment-1049 Mark Berthelemy Tue, 06 May 2008 09:54:02 +0000 http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/05/06/changing-gear-and-virtual-learning-environments/#comment-1049 That's why I always try to include an element of experiencing the VLE from the perspective of the learner before attempting to help people understand what it means to the teacher/tutor. It's the old problem of teachers replicating (as a teacher) their own experiences (as a learner). We need to grab them in the teacher training institutions and break that cycle. That’s why I always try to include an element of experiencing the VLE from the perspective of the learner before attempting to help people understand what it means to the teacher/tutor.

It’s the old problem of teachers replicating (as a teacher) their own experiences (as a learner). We need to grab them in the teacher training institutions and break that cycle.

]]> Comment on The what, how and why of teaching kids to write by Bill Thompson http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/04/09/the-what-how-and-why-of-teaching-kids-to-write/#comment-1041 Bill Thompson Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:49:06 +0000 http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/04/09/the-what-how-and-why-of-teaching-kids-to-write/#comment-1041 Me :-) And we'd have more fun, too! With luck they'd also manage to teach me something - one of the main reasons I teach at City is that it keeps me lively. Me :-) And we’d have more fun, too!

With luck they’d also manage to teach me something - one of the main reasons I teach at City is that it keeps me lively.

]]> Comment on Phil Beale and the mantle of John Clare by Never mind the technology, where’s the learning? » Blog Archive » The what, how and why of teaching kids to write http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/04/01/phil-beale-and-the-mantle-of-john-clare/#comment-1040 Never mind the technology, where’s the learning? » Blog Archive » The what, how and why of teaching kids to write Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:54:08 +0000 http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2008/04/04/phil-beale-and-the-mantle-of-john-clare/#comment-1040 [...] and contrast Bill Thompson’s latest article with Phil Beale’s view of the world which I blogged on recently. Bill, apart from being a regular technology columnist for the BBC, also teaches a [...] [...] and contrast Bill Thompson’s latest article with Phil Beale’s view of the world which I blogged on recently. Bill, apart from being a regular technology columnist for the BBC, also teaches a [...]

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